MM replied...
On Mar 17, 3:31=A0pm, "Russ \(SBITS.Biz\)"
ent.
Not all users - seems to be only recent set-ups (using wizard)
We're currently using a smarthost
New email with a 28KB attachment
Even got an error on a text only email 8KB
One user mail sent from smartphone went OK
Same message through Outlook failed
The following message was rejected as being 20MB+ when it arrived but
was sent as 52552KB
MAIL - FROM:<TestUser@abc.ca>+SIZE=3D52552 0 0 4 0 62 SMTP - - - -
250+2.1.0+<TestUser@abc.ca>...+Sender+ok 0 0 40 0 109 SMTP - - - -
RCPT - TO:<username@outside.com> 0 0 4 0 109 SMTP - - - -
250+2.1.5+<username@outside.com>...+Recipient+ok;+will+forward 0 0 68
0 140 SMTP - - - -
DATA - - 0 0 4 0 140 SMTP - - - -
354+Enter+mail,+end+with+"."+on+a+line+by+itself 0 0 48 0 187 SMTP - -
- -
554+5.3.4+Message+size+exceeds+fixed+maximum+message+size 0 0 57 0 609
SMTP - - - -
QUIT - - 0 0 4 0 625 SMTP - - - -
221+2.0.0+mail.smarthost.com+closing+connection 0 0 47 0 656 SMTP - -
- -
220+mail.smarthost.com+ESMTP+Hosted+by+Smart.net;+Mon,+17+Mar
+2008+14:14:39+-0400 0 0 82 0 32 SMTP - - - -
MM
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Ed Crowley [MVP] replied...
All domains? Does the problem repeat if you send the same message to a
Yahoo!, Hotmail or gmail account?
--
Ed Crowley
MVP - Exchange
On Mar 17, 3:31 pm, "Russ \(SBITS.Biz\)"
Not all users - seems to be only recent set-ups (using wizard)
We're currently using a smarthost
New email with a 28KB attachment
Even got an error on a text only email 8KB
One user mail sent from smartphone went OK
Same message through Outlook failed
The following message was rejected as being 20MB+ when it arrived but
was sent as 52552KB
MAIL - FROM:<TestUser@abc.ca>+SIZE=52552 0 0 4 0 62 SMTP - - - -
250+2.1.0+<TestUser@abc.ca>...+Sender+ok 0 0 40 0 109 SMTP - - - -
RCPT - TO:<username@outside.com> 0 0 4 0 109 SMTP - - - -
250+2.1.5+<username@outside.com>...+Recipient+ok;+will+forward 0 0 68
0 140 SMTP - - - -
DATA - - 0 0 4 0 140 SMTP - - - -
354+Enter+mail,+end+with+"."+on+a+line+by+itself 0 0 48 0 187 SMTP - -
- -
554+5.3.4+Message+size+exceeds+fixed+maximum+message+size 0 0 57 0 609
SMTP - - - -
QUIT - - 0 0 4 0 625 SMTP - - - -
221+2.0.0+mail.smarthost.com+closing+connection 0 0 47 0 656 SMTP - -
- -
220+mail.smarthost.com+ESMTP+Hosted+by+Smart.net;+Mon,+17+Mar
+2008+14:14:39+-0400 0 0 82 0 32 SMTP - - - -
MM
Rich Matheisen [MVP] replied...
[ snip ]
If the message is leaving your server with a size of 52KB and arriving
at the destination with a size of 20MB then you need to start your
troubleshooting at "mail.smarthost.com" (the relay server). It should
show you the MAIL FROM exactly as you see it in your log, and you
should see the MAIL FROM sent to the target server with only a sligtly
larger size (additional header information is inserted into the mesage
by the relay). The receiving server should get the message at the same
size as the relay resent the message.
Somewhere there's either a defective MTA or a message loop that keeps
adding the message body to the message. If that's what's happening
then look for some sort of "auto-reply" process -- on the other
machines, not yours.
--
Rich Matheisen
MCSE+I, Exchange MVP
MS Exchange FAQ at http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm
Don't send mail to this address mailto:h.pott@getronics.com
Or to these, either: mailto:h.pott@pinkroccade.com mailto:melvin.mcphucknuckle@getronics.com mailto:melvin.mcphucknuckle@pinkroccade.com
MM replied...
On Mar 17, 6:53=A0pm, "Ed Crowley [MVP]" <cursp...@mvpsnospam.org>
All domains? Does the problem repeat if you send the same message to
a
Yahoo!, Hotmail or gmail account?
Seems to be all domains for two users recently added (we've been
looking checking user settings with no luck) can be reproduced
TestUser1(new set-up with wizard): 58KB email
Sent internal goes ok
Sent to hotmail.com & rogers.com failed
This message is larger than the current system limit or
the recipient's mailbox is full. Create a shorter message body or
remove attachments and try sending it again.
maximum message size>
Existinguser(set-up a long time ago) same email
All goes OK and is deleivered
TestUser2(copied from Existinguser above) same email
Sent internal goes ok
Sent to hotmail.com & rogers.com failed
This message is larger than the current system limit or
the recipient's mailbox is full. Create a shorter message body or
remove attachments and try sending it again.
maximum message size>
MM
MM replied...
On Mar 17, 10:33=A0pm, "Rich Matheisen [MVP]"
=A0 =A0 [ snip ]
c...@getronics.com mailto:melvin.mcphucknuc...@pinkroccade.com
Spoke initially to smarthost and while helpful pointed back to us
first and wanted me to be 100% sure it was not our issue. I believe
I'm 99% sure and will send them a summary of what I've found. I'm off
for a day - so won't have any other details until Wed.
Thanks - MM
Windows Server - Email leaves 28KB arrives as 20+MB
Asked By MM
19-Mar-08 01:39 AM
SBS2K3R2 with 30 users 2 recently added) users getting
Your message did not reach some or all of the intended recipients.
Subject: Testing
Sent: 3/13/2008 1:25 PM
The following recipient(s) could not be reached:
u...@abc.com on 3/13/2008 1:25 PM
You do not have permission to send to this recipient.
For
assistance, contact your system administrator.
When sent internally the message goes and shows up as 28KB when the
same message is sent externally it shows as 20+MB and is rejected -
we're now going to copy an existing older user and see what happens.
Anyone ever seen such a thing?
Russ \(SBITS.Biz\) replied...
All Users And All Domains?
If so do you have a PTR Record?
Meaning your IP has a DNS record of mail.yourdomain.com
on the 20MB file??
Is this a Forwarded message? or a new message?
is all users getting this? just one?
Is this an Attachment? etc?
More details please.
Russ
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SBITS.Biz
Microsoft Gold Certified Partner
Microsoft Certified Small Business Specialist.
MCP, MCPS, MCNPS, (MCP-SBS)
North America Remote SBS2003 Support - http://www.SBITS.Biz
Information on Small Business Server 2008 - http://www.sbs2008.com
Information on Essentials Business Server - http://www.ebs2008.com
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MM replied...
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nuc...@getronics.com mailto:melvin.mcphucknuc...@pinkroccade.com
moved smarthost and problem stopped.
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